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Tom
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posted 09-07-2006 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First the Ecstasy. I've been sailing my Haven each day since Monday, thoroughly enjoying it. Monday and Tuesday were very light wind days (5-8 knts.) and she made very good use of the light air. She tacks easily even when moving very slowly.

Today the air was up a bit, 10-15 knts. She pointed well and moved briskly on all points of sail, heeling only slightly when close hauled. I enjoyed several hours of great sailing.

Now for the agony. Toward the end of the day I tried a jibe which coincided with a puff of brisk air. It was more violent than I had anticipated. I heard a sharp crack but figured it was just something working itself in.

When I returned to the dock and started tidying things up, I noticed a crack in the mast where I had made a scarf joint near the gooseneck. The epoxy had failed and there was a 10-12 inch crack in the wood (solid Sitka Spruce.) I have myself to blame. I didn't do the 12-1 scarf I should have. I'll get a photo tomorrow and add it to this post which will show how the scarf was done. Lesson learned: don't take shortcuts!

I want to say a bit about the electric motor set up. Overall, I'm very pleased. The boat moves along somewhat faster than one could comfortably row it. It hasn't been tested yet against a strong headwind, but it worked well getting out to the lake and back in today in 10-15 knt. winds.

One problem is that I am not able to back out of my well into the canal. The engine being mouted on the port side of the transom causes the boat to back into the canal headed in the wrong direction. There is no rudder control until the boat has some momentum. I have to back out of the well using a paddle and get the boat headed in the right direction before starting the motor. After it gets going rudder control is excellent.

I'm curious to hear more from Dan Nielsen about how well his rudder mounted motor is working out.

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Tom
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posted 09-08-2006 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the top end of the scarf:

And this is the bottom:

My thought now is to cut off the bottom 7' of the mast, and make it into a gaff rig mast. Anyone got a gaff rig mainsail foir sale?

Tom

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Paul
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posted 09-10-2006 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul   Click Here to Email Paul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom, before you do that, why don't you check out Bud McIntosh' book 'How To Build A Wooden Boat'. Page 214 describes how to re-join or lengthen a broken mast. You might be able to save all that labor you put into the original mast.

Jibes can be quite rough on spars, rigging etc. Not that I have ever jibed accidently!

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Tom
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posted 09-10-2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Paul. I actually used Bud's book when building the mast; his "spar finishing machine" works very well. I just didn't continue reading the next few pages about fixing a broken mast. I think I will attempt a "clothespin" scarf as he describes. It will certainly be easier than making a whole new mast!

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Tom Flatley
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posted 09-11-2006 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Flatley   Click Here to Email Tom Flatley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think that it was because of the angle of the scarf or do you think that maybe the epoxy didn't cure correctly or something else on that end of the equation. I wonder how critical the scarf ratio really is. 12-1 is great but is 11-1 wrong? 8-1 is used for other applications but there must have been some other things happening to split it. It also could be where the scarf is and not necessarily how it is. Looks like it was close to a high stress area of the mast where it probably got a lot of torque during the jibe (right near the boom fittings). I would think scarfs are good for longitudinal or bending stresses, not axial or torsional forces.

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SteveW
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posted 09-11-2006 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveW   Click Here to Email SteveW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would make what ever quick repair you can and keep sailing ( bolts/fiberglass/etc.) as the season is getting short. I always run wing, and wing, on down wind legs, and I pull the boom rope in and pay it out by hand to take some shock out of comming about.

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Tom
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posted 09-11-2006 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Tom Flatley: I think the slanted part of the joint might have had a slight (1/16" or less) gap and been epoxy deprived.

Steve W: You're probably right! I'll look at a quick temporary fix.

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jsalacain
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posted 09-11-2006 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsalacain   Click Here to Email jsalacain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The next time you jibe, (after your repair) sheet in the main so the boom is over the gunwhale before you start to turn. This will alleviate the violent movement of the sail from one tack to the other and reduce the forces that can snap a spar. Especially from broad reach to broad reach. These wooden spar boats cannot take the forces of uncontrolled sail movement.

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Tom
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posted 09-15-2006 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sailing again!

After one 1/4" bolt, 4 yards of fiberglass tape and resin, and 4 pipe clamps.

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